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#1 User is online   MartinB 

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 01:08 PM

I just came across this graphic 'bug' (?) - a sort of radial effect maybe connected with some lighting effect? It appears in different views - and seems to wander across the screen. Anyone else experienced it yet?
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Posted 08 March 2008 - 04:00 PM

Yes, the same effect appears sometimes with different views, sometimes with clouds and sometimes when i push the trim up or trim down button.
I think, since beta 18 or 19

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 04:35 PM

i'd say it's the rain. or the paint for the rain at least.
i see some drops on your windscreen. the same 'object' appears if it's raining cats and dogs..

edit: and the same appears when it snows..
2nd edit: normaly the background is grey when it rains, so you won't see that 'thing'
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Posted 08 March 2008 - 05:24 PM

Yeah, happens as soon as it starts raining on my setup. Has been like that for some betas now.
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Posted 08 March 2008 - 05:25 PM

It is rain. It happens with me ONLY when the rain is very light. It is frustrating because it reduces my frames by half! :blink:
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Posted 08 March 2008 - 08:49 PM

So has anyone told Austin about it?
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Posted 08 March 2008 - 09:04 PM

View PostPeter Cole, on Mar 8 2008, 09:49 PM, said:

So has anyone told Austin about it?

I always wonder why we need to tell austin about it. I assume he plays X-Plane more than any of us.
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Posted 08 March 2008 - 11:24 PM

View PostMartinB, on Mar 8 2008, 01:08 PM, said:

I just came across this graphic 'bug' (?) - a sort of radial effect maybe connected with some lighting effect? It appears in different views - and seems to wander across the screen. Anyone else experienced it yet?
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Funny...I was just going to post a question about the strange object floating around my aircraft...I think it's a UFO!!!

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 02:49 AM

View PostPeter Cole, on Mar 9 2008, 02:49 AM, said:

So has anyone told Austin about it?


No, but having got your feedback I will.

Here's a couple of other bugs I've just reported, plus Austin's reply:

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MB: Summary= ILS a/p disconnect
Description= when established with the a/p on the ILS the LOC and APP sometimes disengage (without me doing anything).

AM: u r hitting the stall warning i think

(I wonder what that means? I'm hitting a stall warning button/key? or I'm about to stall?)
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MB: Summary= Free view won't rotate
Description= Using the free view - CONTROL-; - I can move my position left, right, fore and aft, but the rotate view keys don\'t work. (There is a slight rotational movement but it seems to be blocked)

AM: i think u r suppose to rotate with the mouse now
does that work?

MB: No - the mouse has no effect on the view.
Incidentally, If I click on the white centre cross, even thought the active white square does not appear, the mouse does operate the controls and steering. Clicking again deselects the controls.
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Here's another that I've just reported:
Hitting RETURN no longer brings up the ATC screen (where you request ATIS or landing clearance, brighten runway lighting etc)
Anyone know how to do that now? (I've looked through the keyboard commands and don't see RETURN at all).
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 12:15 PM

View PostMartinB, on Mar 9 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

MB: Summary= Free view won't rotate
Description= Using the free view - CONTROL-; - I can move my position left, right, fore and aft, but the rotate view keys don\'t work. (There is a slight rotational movement but it seems to be blocked)

AM: i think u r suppose to rotate with the mouse now
does that work?


Solution: CLICK and DRAG the mouse.
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 11:37 PM

View Postadkinsadam1, on Mar 8 2008, 11:04 PM, said:

I always wonder why we need to tell austin about it. I assume he plays X-Plane more than any of us.


I suspect he's too busy programing the sim to have time to really use it.
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 04:45 AM

I'm rather fed up with the lighting errors for intel macs when using ANY clouds! It just becomes nearly black half of the screen. So for the last few betas i have been flying with no clouds.
Austin i believe is aware.
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 07:19 AM

View PostCj27, on Mar 14 2008, 10:45 AM, said:

I'm rather fed up with the lighting errors for intel macs when using ANY clouds! It just becomes nearly black half of the screen. So for the last few betas i have been flying with no clouds.
Austin i believe is aware.


I used to have all sorts of graphics problems with my 24inch Intel Imac, but these were overcome by launching X-Plane in terminal. It's maybe worth trying for your current problems.
Here's a linkto tell you how.

The command-line I was advised to use was --no_vbos.

Here's a quick summary adapted from the link above:

To run X-Plane using command-line arguments, you must launch X-Plane using terminal.

Open the utility "Terminal"; it can be found in the Utilities folder (within the Applications folder).
Terminal gives you a command-prompt.
Drag your X-Plane application ikon into the terminal window.
The command line will list the names of all of the folders leading to your copy of X-Plane using / for directories.
All spaces will be preceded by \ characters.

Delete the extra space at the end and add the following to the command-line:
Contents/MacOS/X-Plane
After the word X-Plane you include command-line option:
--no_vbos

So this is how it should look
/Volumes/GIS/X-Plane\ 8.50\ RC-3/X-Plane\ 850\ RC-3.app/Contents/MacOS/X-Plane --no_vbos

There are other command-lines such as
--no_sprites
but I don't know what they do....
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 07:51 AM

Nope didn't work for X-plane 9.00 RC1.
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That is with just 1 thin, layer of cloud.
And thats the best it gets.
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 08:14 AM

View PostCj27, on Mar 14 2008, 08:51 AM, said:

Nope didn't work for X-plane 9.00 RC1.
Here is a screenshot...
Attachment Picture_1.jpg
That is with just 1 thin, layer of cloud.
And thats the best it gets.


Cj27...I feel your pain!...I get that problem too but sometimes it goes away but only to reappear...even with totally clear skies...it's very annoying!

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 01:20 PM

THats the best it gets. Sometime 60% of the screen is Black and altitude doesn't help either.
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 02:09 PM

Actually, that's not a bug....it's a new feature called "Langolier Effect":


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Posted 15 March 2008 - 04:10 AM

View PostRodrigo Sauvalle, on Mar 14 2008, 09:09 PM, said:

Actually, that's not a bug....it's a new feature called "Langolier Effect":


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:P


O.k. will get my tristar down on the lonely airport with just a few pax on board.


Did anyone realized different wiper speeds related to grafics ?
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 05:54 AM

View PostCj27, on Mar 14 2008, 08:51 AM, said:

Nope didn't work for X-plane 9.00 RC1.
Here is a screenshot...
Attachment Picture_1.jpg
That is with just 1 thin, layer of cloud.
And thats the best it gets.


That's a shame!
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 01:11 PM

Are you running with Anti-Aliasing enabled? I get a similar problem, (like the world being in shadow) but only when AA is enabled. It gets on my goat, because 2x AA would really round out the beautiful graphical settings I've got going, but at least turning it off sorts the whole thing out.

Is this what you experience? Have you tried turning off AA and restarting?
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