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#1 User is offline   Morten 

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 12:10 PM

OK welcome to the future :D

This project was not planned, but we came across some fantastic information
on this acf, so we just had to make it!

The exterior is made from Boeing drawings, and performance is based on
Piano analysis software which is a professional tool used by Boeing, Airbus etc.
It is used in preliminary design, competitor evaluation, performance studies
and other developmental tasks by airframe and engine manufacturers.
It is known to be very accurate.

I'm very pleased with the performance and I think you will agree. Have changed
the strategy a bit with regard to our control system. You will notice a difference
in handling.

I will soon upload more performance information so you can fly it on the numbers.

The panel is based some rare material and information we were lucky to
get hold of.

Have fun and well done Boeing with another beautiful acf :)

Beta 2.0.1
Stability sytem fix to also handle turbulence.
Just replace the acf file.

Beta 2.5
Last saved in XP v 8.30
- Custom Panel implementation.
Based on reliable information. Some parts are still generic, but will be updated
as more information get available.
- Small performance adjustment


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DOWNLOAD beta 2.5



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This post has been edited by Morten: 02 August 2006 - 02:26 PM

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 12:14 PM

wOAH!

Drools

Good job guys
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Posted 14 January 2006 - 12:23 PM

yay! :D

Thanks Morten!
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Posted 14 January 2006 - 12:25 PM

Oops 8.30 only, never mind.. :unsure:
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Posted 14 January 2006 - 12:45 PM

Can be it works in 8.21 as well - don't know..

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 12:46 PM

beeeeutiful
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Posted 14 January 2006 - 01:56 PM

 Morten, on Jan 14 2006, 12:45 PM, said:

Can be it works in 8.21 as well - don't know..

M



No it doesn't open in X-Plane or Plane-Maker in 8.21. I'll just wait--should only be another 8 betas or so...
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  Posted 14 January 2006 - 01:56 PM

What an awesome birthday gift.
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  Posted 14 January 2006 - 02:22 PM

Man, beat me to it... Excellent job though! B)
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Posted 14 January 2006 - 02:32 PM

although it is 4.32am right now but.... i just cant wait to fly it
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Posted 14 January 2006 - 03:50 PM

Absolutly beautiful XPFW team , what an airplane B)

i am amazed how easy it is to fly. thank you for sharing this beauty, looks very grasefully

again thank you very mush

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 04:37 PM

One word AWESOME

thanks guys cant wait to fly it,

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 10:17 AM

Thank you all :)

There is a problem with the control system in TURBULENCE, so turn that OFF for now.
I suspect its a XP bug - Austin is informed!

Cheers,

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 02:26 PM

Looks like a beautiful plane, do you plan on adding GoodWay and CoPilot support?
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 07:55 PM

Beautiful aircraft XPFW guys. THANK YOU!
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 09:04 PM

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 10:35 AM

Do any of you tech/aero types know why Boeing has apparently abandoned winglets and their traditional HUGE vertical stabilizers on this aircraft?

The aircraft is supposed to be ultra efficient? I theorize that the curved wings and aggressively swept wingtips serve the same vortex reducing characteristics of winglets? And, does ultra-efficiency mean that the surface area of the vertical stab needed to be reduced at the expense of directional stability?

Thoughts? Knowledge? Guesses? Discussion?

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:15 AM

Well, the wing tips on the B787 is obviously a variant
of the 772LR Raked winglets.
In addition it is possiible that these new composite wings will
flex up more towards the tip in flight than the conventional wings will. This
will also add to the "winglet effect".

In addition to the wing, the overall weight is an important factor on fuel efficiency.
Thats the other reason for using composits.


Mass Breakdown lb. % MTOW
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wing group 60334. 12.68 %
(struct.box 51419.)
(flaps 5039.)
(slats 2446.)
(spoilers 666.)
(ailerons 378.)
(winglets 386.)
fuselage group 44991. 9.45 %
stabiliser 5170. 1.09 %
fin 2139. 0.45 %
undercarriage 18618. 3.91 %
_____________________ _______ _______
basic structure total 131252. 27.57 %

dry engines total 22259. 4.68 %
nacelles total 8603. 1.81 %
pylons total 4609. 0.97 %
_____________________ _______ _______
powerplants total 35471. 7.45 %

furnishings 41976. 8.82 %
surface controls 4836. 1.02 %
fuel systems 917. 0.19 %
hydraulics 3750. 0.79 %
electrics 2950. 0.62 %
avionics 3003. 0.63 %
APU 1276. 0.27 %
air conditioning 2164. 0.45 %
misc. systems 8835. 1.86 %
_____________________ _______ _______
fixed equipment total 69707. 14.64 %

manufact. contingency 0. 0.00 %
_____________________ _______ _______
Manufact. Empty Mass 236430. 49.67 % = MEW

crew 2205. 0.46 %
operational items 565. 0.12 %
_____________________ _______ _______
Operators Empty Mass 239200. 50.25 % = OEW

design payload 47040. 9.88 %
design fuel 189760. 39.87 %
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Maximum Takeoff Mass 476000. 100 % = MTOW
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:42 PM

 Dumbo02, on Jan 16 2006, 08:35 AM, said:

Do any of you tech/aero types know why Boeing has apparently abandoned winglets and their traditional HUGE vertical stabilizers on this aircraft?

The aircraft is supposed to be ultra efficient? I theorize that the curved wings and aggressively swept wingtips serve the same vortex reducing characteristics of winglets? And, does ultra-efficiency mean that the surface area of the vertical stab needed to be reduced at the expense of directional stability?

Thoughts? Knowledge? Guesses? Discussion?

-Todd


The Vstab is dictated by the amount of directional stability you need in:
  • one engine out situations
  • crosswind landing situations
the lenght of the airframe plays an important role as well as it dictates the arm of the Vstab.
(the reason why short acf have larger Vstabs....)

the frontal area of the Vstab is reduced on the 787 by using composite materials which offer higher strenght with a way thinner profile.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 05:52 PM

Wow, a lot has happened in the 10 days I've been gone!

Looks fantastic! :D
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