[hemlock]

Hi

I hope someone can help me with this one. In most of my MSFS conversions, such as EGLL and EGKK, terminal buildings and out buildings are all floating off the ground at various heights, where as all ground vehicles are on the ground. Most of the time it's only slight so I put up with it, but as in the case of EGKK and EGCC some buildings are way off the ground. I've used DSF2TEXT to look at it but can't figure out how to change the elevations of the objects. is there a way of getting all the buildings back on the ground?

[madjason12]

Now i'm not sure exactly how to manually change the elevations, however I do know that MSFS airports are all set on level terrain, unlike X-Plane.
I'm not sure if this is your issue, but in the rendering options page, check the 'all airports at same elevation' feature. (Not sure if that's what it's called, but you should easily be able to find it.)

-Jason

[ZVV12]

madjason12, on 30 March 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

Now i'm not sure exactly how to manually change the elevations, however I do know that MSFS airports are all set on level terrain, unlike X-Plane.
I'm not sure if this is your issue, but in the rendering options page, check the 'all airports at same elevation' feature. (Not sure if that's what it's called, but you should easily be able to find it.)

-Jason

Not exactly, it's called "Runways follow terrain countours" - turn it off and the airport will lie on level terrain. Changing the object elevation manually is not possible.

[hemlock]

I've already done that. tried it with the runway follows the contours on and off, it doesn't make any difference, come to think of it..I've had to bump my pref file a fair few times, and have noticed when at the default start up at Iowi or something like that. when i turn the contours off nothing happens. but i do think the floating terminal buildings is a result of the conversion and not a problem with the sim..but if i can be proved wrong then great for me.

[rocket man]

Whenever I faced this "levitation" issue with objects I would import the named obj file in ac3d and move the obj to default coordinates. Then, I export the obj as an v8 obj to the desired scenery folder, replacing the original obj file. Next, I launched Marginal's Object Editor. Worth pointing out, the new obj file is no longer at the original lat-lon. This is where OE excels with its GUI. You simply highlight the obj and relocate it to the desired coords and compass heading.

Attempting to edit the dsf file will only lead to frustration.

[emin]

Your solution is don't buy from UK2000, I have never been able to get any of their sceneries to work. Aerosoft is a good alternative for EGLL and I have extensively edited it and I can send you and update if your buy it.

[hemlock]

'Your solution is don't buy from UK2000, I have never been able to get any of their sceneries to work. Aerosoft is a good alternative for EGLL and I have extensively edited it and I can send you and update if your buy it.'


Emin...
I also have the Mega Heathrow scenery from Aerosoft, but I gave up on it, there were just to many editing problems to sort out and at the time i didn't have the patience to do it, I do agree that UK2000 's scenery doesn't convert very well but they were the only one that seamed to do a half decent EGKK scenery. You must have put in the hours to get Aerosoft's scenery to look good..

[emin]

hemlock, on 01 April 2010 - 04:34 PM, said:

'Your solution is don't buy from UK2000, I have never been able to get any of their sceneries to work. Aerosoft is a good alternative for EGLL and I have extensively edited it and I can send you and update if your buy it.'


Emin...
I also have the Mega Heathrow scenery from Aerosoft, but I gave up on it, there were just to many editing problems to sort out and at the time i didn't have the patience to do it, I do agree that UK2000 's scenery doesn't convert very well but they were the only one that seamed to do a half decent EGKK scenery. You must have put in the hours to get Aerosoft's scenery to look good..

I put weeks into aerosoft's, it was already decent for me with the initial conversion. There are still glitches around but if your not looking for them, my version of aerosofts EGLL is fantastic. And I bought EGKK and I got horrid results, could I see a picture of what you got? because with me, almost every 3d object was either above ground by a few yards, or below ground by a few hundred yards. And there were no ortho ground textures (a biggie for me).

[hemlock]

rocket man, on 31 March 2010 - 03:33 PM, said:

Whenever I faced this "levitation" issue with objects I would import the named obj file in ac3d and move the obj to default coordinates. Then, I export the obj as an v8 obj to the desired scenery folder, replacing the original obj file. Next, I launched Marginal's Object Editor. Worth pointing out, the new obj file is no longer at the original lat-lon. This is where OE excels with its GUI. You simply highlight the obj and relocate it to the desired coords and compass heading.

Attempting to edit the dsf file will only lead to frustration.

Rocket man

I took your advice and with-in half an hour I had improved the look ten fold...I now have a good looking airport with buildings on the ground..I did notice that in AC3D that if you very carefully manually pulled the object down to the ground level and then exported back to x-plane..in OE i didn't have to do any placement...I'm well chuffed...Many Thanks for the help

[rocket man]

hemlock, on 02 April 2010 - 07:14 AM, said:

Rocket man

I took your advice and with-in half an hour I had improved the look ten fold...I now have a good looking airport with buildings on the ground..I did notice that in AC3D that if you very carefully manually pulled the object down to the ground level and then exported back to x-plane..in OE i didn't have to do any placement...I'm well chuffed...Many Thanks for the help

Yes, I have done it that way also. But I had uneven (no pun intended) results sometimes when runways follow contours was checked in settings.

cheers

[Bloower]

rocket man, on 31 March 2010 - 03:33 PM, said:

Whenever I faced this "levitation" issue with objects I would import the named obj file in ac3d and move the obj to default coordinates. Then, I export the obj as an v8 obj to the desired scenery folder, replacing the original obj file. Next, I launched Marginal's Object Editor. Worth pointing out, the new obj file is no longer at the original lat-lon. This is where OE excels with its GUI. You simply highlight the obj and relocate it to the desired coords and compass heading.

Attempting to edit the dsf file will only lead to frustration.

Hi rocket man

I am new to this conversion stuff but would like to learn.

I am having trouble with this part:

What is the default coordinates for an object?

How do you move the obj in ac3d? "The easiest way in detail please"

How do you convert a obj to pol?

[rocket man]

Bloower, on 03 April 2010 - 07:57 PM, said:

Hi rocket man

I am new to this conversion stuff but would like to learn.

I am having trouble with this part:

What is the default coordinates for an object?

How do you move the obj in ac3d? "The easiest way in detail please"

How do you convert a obj to pol?

1. Select (highlight) obj, next click on "Move to" button in tool sidebar. For a complete description of obj default coords and how to customize them, refer to the ac3d user manual under Help menu.
2. Draped polygons (pol files) are superior over obj texture files where layering is concerned. There is no application which converts an obj file to a pol file. Creation is done in a text editor (for mac, TexEdit works fine). Documentaion on pol file structure and syntax can be found here For examples, try searching for pol files in your custom scenery folder.

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[Bloower]

Thank you very much rocket man

Currently converting and working on KLAX KSFO KSAN & KSEA.

Using xplane lighting & default apt.dat with gate positions from converted afcads.

Blending nicely with my photoscenery of the west coast.

Looks great.